Flat Earther Joe Samui tells us that, to begin with, the term "flat earth" is quite misleading. "I'm more of a globe denier" he says, before clarifying that he also believes in a geo-centric model of the universe (that is, one where the sun revolves around the earth). How did Joe start down this path of discovery? What evidence does he have? Why would NASA lie about the earth's shape? We ask all of these questions and more! Over the course of this fascinating episode, we talk to Joe about various flat earth 'proofs' and try to reason around them, and Joe asks some questions of his own. Also joining us is comedian Davey Ash, who used to be heavily invested in flat earth but is now more sceptical. Enjoy the show? Feel free to subscribe to the channel!