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Ep. 155 - Do you find yourself wondering how to build a marketing ecosystem that you actually own? Considering the recent price hike of one of the most widely used CRM softwares, you may be asking yourself that more now than ever. Well you're in luck because in this episode, Chris is joined by Spencer Forman to talk about WordPress, beyond websites, where they discuss exactly that. They cover if it's possible, what to be mindful of in the process, and if there is actually a true solution for the marketing industry. Chris and Spencer's combined insight on this topic is something you don't want to miss.