In this episode GG sits down with David Saroy, Head of Ecosystem at Alpen, to explore the cutting edge of Bitcoin scalability, ZK rollups, and the future of Bitcoin development.

We cover:

- How zero-knowledge proofs could transform Bitcoin

- The trade-offs and challenges of scaling Bitcoin without compromising decentralization

- The ethics of Bitcoin lending and why it matters

- David’s personal journey into Bitcoin

- Why humility, personal responsibility, and stacking sats still matter most

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Chapters:
00:00 Unlocking Bitcoin's Potential with Zero-Knowledge Proofs
01:58 David Saroy's Journey into Bitcoin
05:39 Understanding Zero-Knowledge Proofs
09:33 The Role of Layer 2 Solutions
11:19 Challenges Facing ZK Rollups
15:15 The Story of Alpen
18:58 Future Applications of Zero-Knowledge Proofs
24:34 Collateralizing Bitcoin: A New Financial Tool
25:38 The Ethos of Bitcoin: Money vs. Lending
26:56 Agency and Responsibility in Bitcoin Usage
28:53 Debates in the Bitcoin Community: Mempool and Sats
30:55 The Future of Bitcoin: Scaling and Development
34:51 Investing in Bitcoin Startups: Opportunities and Challenges
43:27 Advice for New Bitcoiners: Stay Humble and Stack Sats

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