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CN: This episode contains swearing

Elle and her guest Mer Yayanos share a deep, abiding appreciation for their therapists, slow moments with partners, creative collaborations, and butts. Most of this episode is dedicated to the first bits – these two queerdo artists dive into their particular feminisms, sharing parts of their burnout and healing journeys, and why they won’t be breaking any glass ceilings. Also butts are funny, even (and especially) when you’re talking about your trauma. 

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