In this episode, Professor Ian Williams joins us to discuss his CBC Massey Lectures, What I Mean to Say: Remaking Conversation in Our Time. Williams explores the role that conversation plays in shaping how we relate to one another, from everyday social exchanges to difficult discussions about sensitive topics. We talk about the inspirations behind the lecture series, how conversations have evolved over time, and why care, listening, and curiosity are essential for meaningful dialogue.

Ian Williams is a Professor of English, director of the Creative Writing program and academic advisor for the Massey College William Southam Journalism Fellowship at the University of Toronto, where he also completed his PhD. Williams is the author of several acclaimed books of fiction, poetry and nonfiction. He is also a trustee for the Griffin Poetry Prize.