Today I'm talking about perfection with Carina. She a 15 year old who has a better sense of the world around her than most 60 year olds. Carina's curiosity, open-mindedness about herself and the world is a lesson for us all. Every time I get to talk with Carina, I'm deepened by the exchange, and I know you'll be as well. I'm thrilled to dive into this juicy conversation with her.

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