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In this 49th episode, Joe interviews his amazing wife Katie Donar about the social-emotional effects that  children nowadays have to deal with on a daily basis - and yet - hopefully one day understand.  Also, during their conversation - they talked about the difficulties in marriage - as they help raise their little weirdos - all while trying to grow old together.

Also, the song attached to this episode is called Trying to Drive by the Zac Brown Band. It’s a song that talks about the challenge in any relationship where both people are trying steer in two different directions - instead of allowing themselves to take turns behind the wheel - while being okay with where the other person wants to go and giving up the control we think we need to have - so we can trust again. Hope you enjoy!