Scuttlebutt: Official Podcast of the National Museum of the Surface Navy

Carl Herzog: Public Historian for USS CONSTITUTION Museum


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With the 210th anniversary of the infamous battle between the US Navy's venerable grande dame, USS CONSTITUTION, and HMS GUERRIERE coming up on August 19, we thought it would be fun to have a conversation with Dr. Carl Herzog, public historian for USS CONSTITUTION Museum

We chatted about everything from bottom copper and cathodic protection to what constitutes "original" in ships that have led multiple service lives to the thing that hasn't changed in hundreds of years of naval history: for humans going to sea, the ocean is always the  first adversary.

Oh, and Carl's photo in the thumbnail...? That's CONSTITUTION's keel over his head.


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