Doc welcomes Butcher Babies vocalist, Carla Harvey, to the show and they talk about connecting on both being bi-racial in the metal scene, what her early time in LA was like as an actor and model who was looking to do music, the challenges women deal with in the entertainment industry, how she met Heidi and Henry and started Butcher Babies, how they overcame backlash from their over-the-top image, dealing with early success and landing big tours, what led her to her other career as a mortician, grief counselor, and End of Life Doula, and what led to the evolution of the Butcher Babies' sound over the years.

This episode features the songs "Beyond The Wall of Sleep" by The Nocturnal Affair, "Saint" by Blackwater Drowning, and "Sleeping With The Enemy" by Butcher Babies.

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