Carmen has Bats, Zach has Ghosts.

Two friends, two perspectives. Join Zach and Carmen for lively discussions, interesting articles, a few beverages and a few swears.

We met at a political fundraiser in 2012 and after 10 minutes of conversation, decided to move in together. Over Buffalo Wild Wings and tap beer, through multiple jobs, campaigns and candidates, we’ve stayed in touch despite the change in zip codes. We decided to start podcasting as a way to stay connected beyond disliking people and gossiping about our friends. We also plan to be famous, so, start listening!

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Two friends, two perspectives. Join Zach and Carmen for lively discussions, interesting articles, a few beverages and a few swears. We met at a political fundraiser in 2012 and after 10 minutes of conversation, decided to move in together. Over Buffalo Wild Wings and tap beer, through multiple jobs, campaigns and candidates, we’ve stayed in touch despite the change in zip codes. We decided to start podcasting as a way to stay connected beyond disliking people and gossiping about our friends. We also plan to be famous, so, start listening!

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