Why would an awarded feminist, entrepreneur who has produced award winning media programmes empowering women, works with UN Women, decide to secure the license for Miss World South Africa? In this episode, Ntombenhle speaks to Carol Bouwer, who is a seasoned and awarded serial entrepreneur, with multiple businesses in media, a luxury handbag brand, and a luxury fragrance brand. Carol acquired the Miss World South Africa license and hosted the first title for Miss World SA 2023, who went on to perform well in Miss World held in India. Carol shares about her journey in building this platform, the major challenges she faced, how she overcome at a time when many felt she failed.