Most people know Chernobyl from history books or the hit TV series, but few heard from people who were actually there as the Soviet Union scrambled to contain the world’s worst nuclear disaster. Nearly 40 years later, questions still surround what really happened, how much was covered up, and what life looked like on the ground during the chaos.

Carol J. Williams, author of Dispatches from Moscow: Spies and Lies, joins us to discuss the 40th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster, Soviet secrecy, and what it was like witnessing one of history’s most catastrophic nuclear accidents unfold in real time.

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