In this episode, filmmaker Carolyn Gray talks about her Cinematoba film, Escape!, which is based on a true story, exploring the unique bond between an unlikely duo, Dean, a cancer survivor and magician, and Phil, a child struggling with his own illness. Together, their bond creates real magic. 

We also talk about her process, her origins, why she chose Dean to make a short film about, and how his story profoundly affected her artistic career.