This episode Palmer gets a chance to talk with Carrie Able, a resident artist at Jump Into The Light. She is an artist, musician, and creator who pushes the boundaries by expressing her message in VR. She currently spends her time at Jump making an immersive sonified painting that will go along with the songs on her upcoming album. Listeners will be able to explore the painting as the sound changes around you. Check her insta out @carrieableart.