In this episode, I talk with illustrator and designer Casey Robertson about the long road to finding your creative voice. Casey shares how skateboarding, Thrasher magazine, and the pandemic all shaped his unique style—and why he's less interested in chasing trends and more interested in making honest work.

We get into creative burnout, pricing your work, dealing with clients, and why the real superpower is staying grounded in your values. This one's a must-listen for anyone building a creative career outside the lines.

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