Daren is joined by his good friend and former colleague at Sportsnet Cassie Campbell-Pascall. Cassie talks about her new role with ESPN and balancing her responsibilities there and with Sportsnet. She explains why she's been so impressed with the Colorado Avalanche, and why she believes the Calgary Flames have made so much progress under Darryl Sutter. She compares the disappointment she's felt as a player to the disappointment Nathan MacKinnon has dealt with in past playoff runs, and explains how it appears to have fueled him this season. She tells Daren who her favorite for the Hart Trophy is and how she feels about Igor Shesterkin being considered for the award. Other topics include Auston Matthews' push for 60 goals, what it's like working with John Buccigross, why playing with Connor McDavid is a challenge and Michael Bunting's breakout season. She talks about her experience working as a female in the hockey industry, some of the broadcasting lessons she learned from Bob Cole and the advice she'd give Wayne Gretzky as he prepares to be in the booth for TNT for this weekend's Heritage Classic.