In this episode we talk to University of North Texas  interaction design professor Cassini Nazir about curiosity. It's (literal) roots in care, how it affects how we think about the war in Ukraine, the defiant ingenuity of the targets of oppression, the pros and cons of empathy, and much, much, more.

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Our intro and outro music is "Humbug" by Crowander