Devan and Tyler catch up after a busy few months.

For the past several months, listeners have been asking the same questions:
Did you quit? Are you guys fighting? Did the podcast die?

The answer is no, no, and no.

We’ve been working on a limited series that takes us deep into a particular moment in medical history. A moment with long shadows. Legal consequences. Ethical fault lines. Human impact that still echoes.

This time, we’re not just talking. We’re investigating and reporting.
In archives. In communities. In stories that haven’t been told this way before.

This project has taken time because it demands care—care for the history, for the people involved, and for the complexity of the ethical questions it raises.

We’re almost ready to share it.

Stay tuned in 2026.