This episode features a special session from a recent conference hosted by the Center for Open and Relational Theology. The conversation centers on Catherine Keller’s latest book, No Matter What: Crisis and the Spirit of Planetary Possibility. The episode includes Keller’s opening remarks, a response from matt, and Keller’s reply. Other panelists have been omitted for length and focus, but a link to the full panel discussion is available for free at this link: https://c4ort.com/ortline25-audio-downloads/