Michael Naaden at @RealSedePicante on YouTube and X and I chat about theology, Church politics, humorous Catholic influencers, the managerial bureaucratic anti-Church within the Church, the problems that have befallen Catholic Inc. and Trad Inc. ever since Pope Francis deranged Catholic media, how John Courtney Murray and LSD influenced Vatican II and the Novus Ordo, “End the Fed Save the Church”, and positive constructive steps forward that traditionalists, regardless of their views on R&R vs. sedevacantism, can agree on. Timestamps:00:25 Fr. Calvin Robinson2:00 Fr. Martin Navarro5:35 Murray Rundus vs. Chris Jackson9:05 Michael Lofton10:57 Catholic Inc. Influencers16:37 The Claim that Pachamama Was a Hoax18:05 The Ten Phases of Popesplaining22:40 The danger of being popular25:24 CIA influence at Vatican II37:22 The commercialization of the Faith40:10 John Courtney Murray and LSD51:58 Hermeneutic of continuity52:49 “Pro Multis”59:20 Liturgical music cartels1:02:33 Bugnini’s Liturgical Commission1:10:48 Archbishop Lefebvre1:14:05 John Farrell / Annulment Proof1:17:55 The Anti-Church Bureaucracy is the Enemy1:29:09 Lefebvre’s consecrations1:32:18 COVID lockdowns of churches1:37:16 Opus Dei1:38:33 How Bureaucracies actually work1:43:41 Trad Inc.1:56:14 Solutions to the crisisOther, of course, than our opinions on sedevacantism itself and some of Michael’s political takes, we actually agree on a lot of what's wrong within the Church (a false bureaucracy usurping the role of bishops and priests) as well as how we all could use being a little more positive and solution oriented. Michael is the most rational, seemingly non-crazy sede that I’ve ever talked with and while I still think the position is wrong and not the best model for what has been going on in the Church, I’m not necessarily presuming to condemn those who have reasoned to it in good faith. Some sedes clearly seem to come from an angry and/or scrupulous perspective, which more closely fits the definition of schism, but Michael, on the other hand is quite willing to reason through things and seems interested in the good of all Catholics and the need to not just wait for God to act or for the “end times counter Church” to self destruct.This video premiered on Michael’s channel and is reproduced with permission. Original link:Referenced resources: Paul L. Williams, Operation Gladio. Thomas Day, Why Catholics Can’t Sing.Yves Chiron, Annibale Bugnini: Reformer of the Liturgy.Link to academic paper on John Courtney Murray and LSD: https://akjournals.com/view/journals/2054/8/2/article-p143.xml My article on the bureaucratic anti-church that has been built up within the Church: My article on John Courtney Murray, the Deep State, LSD, and Vatican II: My article on Thomas Day and how the Novus Ordo often gets turned into a performance:

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