October 2017 marked 500 years since the Protestant Reformation. In Safespace's inaugural episode, we brought together a Catholic priest and a Lutheran pastor to talk about the rift, and how things are beginning to change towards a more amicable relationship, particularly in Malaysia.

At the time of the interview, Rev. Dr. Sivin Kit was lecturer and Director of the Centre of Religion and Society at the Malaysian Theological Seminary (STM), Seremban. He founded and pastors Bangsar Lutheran Church. Rev. Fr. George Harrison was parish priest for the Church of Visitation, Seremban. They were both involved in organising a series of Catholic-Lutheran events in Kuala Lumpur in 2017, including the seminar From Conflict to Communion.

[Warning: We've learned a lot about production quality since 2017. Please excuse some level of discomfort in how we sound, and enjoy the conversation we managed to have with these two gentlemen. Also, as this podcast was converted from a video version, please excuse the language of "watching" the episode.]