Tim is joined by JD Flynn (co-founder and editor-in-chief of The Pillar) to discuss the growing temptation for Catholics to become spectators of the Church rather than active participants. They explore how media, leadership changes, and a new papacy present both challenges and opportunities for deeper engagement.

(02:43) - The Danger of Ecclesiastical Spectatorship
(16:00) - Responding to Bad News in the Church
(22:11) - The Unified Response to Pope Leo
(25:06) - Pope Leo in Peru