Joshua Karpeh, more widely known as Cautious Clay, is a producer, multi-instrumentalist, and singer-songwriter from Cleveland, OH, and currently based in Brooklyn, NY. His music mixes hip-hop and r&b, and blends organic and electronic instrumentation to create a unique sound.

He’s collaborated with musicians like Taylor Swift, John Mayer, Billie Eillish, and more and has released three EPs, Bloodtype, Resonance, and Table of Context. Most recently he released his debut album, Deadpan Love.

We talked with Karpeh about who he is apart from Cautious Clay and how music helps him express himself.

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