Ned & I catch each other up on our creative projects (his film and my book--links in show notes...). We chat about story-telling pronouns, the AP exam, and how Catcher in the Rye might be more relevant than ever. Plus a deep dive into Catcher (which Ned has been teaching for decades) and Franny & Zooey (which Ned was reticent to read, but which I convinced him of in the same way the he convinced me of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest ep. 21...) and which is totally part of my personal canon.