So there's, like, this, uh, this radio station that I've never listened to.

It was like high UV

I'm listening to music really loudly, and it's why I'm shouting.

"快點" 

I mean, throwing a Cuica that far 

in the mix.

So there's something going on. There's something

there. Drifting through

the wind. All right. I'm into it. So everything's 

going to work. Yeah, everything's

lining up.

So here we go:

​

We need some energy,

Energy of the wildness of the summer.

Like an amphitheater kind of thing

This is, like,

you gotta put the sunscreen… I even have the sunscreen

in my pocket, actually. Look,

I got it right here.

It's great.
According to the cloud,
there we go. 

Maybe

it wasn't the most summer, but it's kind of 

summer. It's like summer lullaby 

summer. I don't know. You can 
feel the heat. You can 

feel

the 
heat.

​
Yeah.

Is it summertime in Poland?

How is the other side?

It's, uh, very similar to…

the other side. Take-backs

on experiences

you've had, or something 
like that. It's like dub 
effect like a different, uh,

time zone, time lapse, time

everything.

​

I realize that I have a coin in my pocket

And I just use it to understand the universe

​It was pre-Shazam. There was no way to know what it was.
I don't want TikTok’s. I want photographic

evidence.

​

You got?

you got a card to throw on this table?

Oh, man. I don't know. 

I don't — my card

is stumped, I have to say.

Oh, man, I wanted… I was trying 

to, like,

throw you 
a softball here

basement bargain bin, like, "I've gone crazy,

I sold this store" kinda… 
price 

range.

​

So I guess that'll be springtime.

Yeah, it's springtime, which is reasonable.

Spring, you know, grew.

It sounds like all these cultures put together

It's giving you a heart.

Maybe you can just

go to bed Munchkin, you are 

just stuff… 
happening. Warm 
summer,

end of the day.

It's like tropical, um…

Munchkin…

Ewok

stuff.

​

Influence of the liners?

In the middle of the time of the service?

In the middle of the time of the service,

the mobile phone, the telephone. Help!

This is related too…

Just the sustained 

chord.The people with the,

you know,

the “good taste”.

And, like, inside the car,

I just thought it was like a comment on—

Electric vehicles. 
I mean, we've heard
a million versions of this kind of formula.

​

We'll do it as the barbershop quartet version.

It's like it's  "so yeah, but that that 
and this and maybe, like, 
yeah, I mean.…"

​

Okay.

You.

You.

You.

You.

it's relentless. It's really relentless.

I'm like, I can't. I can't even breathe like I'm just

小心。

快點。

救命。

All right.

There we go. Boy, 
what a relationship. 
It's just like a hand 
on the thermostat, like it's fucking 
too cold, it's too hot, it's too cold, it's 
too hot

It's so true. It's 
so true. It's
fantastic.

Thank you.

We survived.

We survived.

That's great.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Holy, holy, ho.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The chest is full of helium.
Yeah, the gas is 
amazing. I couldn't even
get the joke out. Oh my 

God, 
thank you.

We listened to:
1. Miles Davis – Sivad
2. 801 – Third Uncle (live)
3. Carl Craig – Mind Of A Machine
4. Charles Earland – Leaving This Planet
5. Me & E – Whatcha Need
6. Mr. De' – Do It To It
7. Boredoms – Ant 10 (Lindstrøm Remix)
8. Fennesz – Don't talk (put your head on my shoulder)
10. Delkash – Be Kenaram Benshin

Shout outs:

MARK & SAMANTHA
MR DE, A DETROIT STORY

According to something I read,

this is a party. 

You don’t know what 

you are missing.

I think they have a word 

for it: the time before 

the internet.

If I can add precision: 

We missed the chance 

to induce mass hallucination

It’s like the selfie camera 

turned around. It’s not your mirror 

image. It doesn’t know 

what it is doing, and 

it has no intention to know 

what it is doing. There’s something wrong. 

Something you introduced me to, a bomb 

going off.

My heart is racing. My heart is so full.

It’s almost unhinged, the sheer 

recklessness. This strange thing

about the illusion of the modern world.

Of the permanence of things. Dead links 

on Wikipedia. The fact it hallucinates 

constantly is more ontologically 

correct, But I had forgotten all of those 

I had forgotten all of those

little sounds that were coming out at the end.

We are in 2026.

The 70’s in Japan were crazy.

It’s the exact same thing. You just feel like 

the stage is going to collapse. Everything is 

insane. The machines are at their apex.

I have a bit of experience,

and one small shitty box that anyone can get.

It's a kind of relaxed and 

not relaxed thing

at the same time.

Sorry, Kathy Clancy 

on timpani, sorry.  It's frames 

inside of frames. It never stops 

unfolding, that depth.

Just the minutia. Heat wave? 

Nah, 

Heat stroke. 

I gotta sit down.

This is music 

to fall in love 

We listened to:
1. Terry Riley – You're No Good
2. Fix –  Flash
3. Man Parrish – Hip Hop Bebop (Don't Stop)
4. Reaction Band – No More Bad News
5. The Fall – Reprise: Jane - Prof Mick - Ey Bastardo
6. Tony Messina – Noiseoid Suite
7. Robert Ashley – The Miracle of Cars
8. JA Seazar – Lion Cub/Song of Pilgrimage to Tokyo
10. Chaba Yamina – Yamrir

Shout outs:

RIP AGAIN AND SPECIAL THANKS AGAIN organ of corti/ gary Todd

DJ CYAN radio show

RTX TRANSMANIACON other best most hated album
ALLISON ANDERS on Mi Vida Loca
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEON!

Oh! This is exactly 
what I’ve be looking for 
all my life.

I don’t known if this is music. I don’t 
know what it is.  
There so many layers 
of going deep 
into the material.

A way to live: 

Escape capture.

Apply pure spontaneous investigative logic to the material at hand.

Restraint.

A radical openness to 
be in dialogue with the thing you observe. 

A feedback piece

A piece for wolf tones 

A piece with words

It’s so punk sounding. So raw, so organic. I can’t think of anything
French that sounds like that. I don’t know what
it is. It’s so much 
about the material of the real.

A store outing:

The space whistles. It felt daunting.

Then it’s the most natural thing 
in the world— 
We can not bridge it, because 
it is inside. 
It’s undeniable. 

A person who makes the one song 
their entire life. From birth 
to death they’ve 
been doing that, the needle 
that plays the universes song. 

If they want
to come for us, they can 
but we’re making this 
anyways. To have 
that as radical praxis. There’s obviously 
something at work there. 

It’s a resonating machine. 
A flat affect transmission. 

It’s got all the ingredients.

I should do this 
every goddamn Sunday. 

We listened to:
1. Eliane Radigue – Opus 17: Number 17
2. Eliane Radigue for Charles Curtis – Naldjorlak (Paris, 2006)
3. Eliane Radigue for Lama Kunga Rinpoche and Robert Ashley – Songs Of Milarepa: Song Of The Path Guides

Shout outs:
Wall of Sound / Climax Golden Twins: An American Experimental Music Band

The live version of the actual first instrumental piece 

Eliane and the AI

https://www.markslutsky.com/archive/something-good-52-what-life-is-less-without/

Where this starts, you are going to be so surprised where it ends.

I’m just going to pecker my way into this one: 

Cups

Chairs

Flatware

Bucket

Pop-top.

You are over there.

There’s just so many directions you can take from the cups. 

So, 

Sell everything and just buy three machines

Its just so basic—commit to the bit

You press a button and a sound comes out. 

You press the button again and the sound goes out.

On and off. 

On and off.

I’d like to sometimes live in this world where just I live in an empty room

With just this bed

With this couch on the floor

And this table with like two machines

And I just like turn on the sound

turn off the sound.

And turn on the sound

turn off the sound.

And I have only three sounds to work with.

There’s this moiré kind of thing happening 

There’s a lot of crevices to explore

So this is kind of this idea.

This kind of thing like 

“Whoah… how far is this going to go?”

(Please wait for a couple of hours for someone to call you).

We are in a new timeline.

It’s a winning proposal

It’s very attractive

It’s great for when you have people over who don’t like music

That’s the goddam cups again.

We could go for an hour fading in and fading out like that

We listened to:
1. Michael Nyman Band – Nose-List Song
2. Ratgrave –  Icarus
3. Robert Hood – Self Powered
4. Limpe Fuchs, Mark Fell – Dessogia II
5. Hiroshi Yoshimura – Kamome No Suiheisen
6. Achim Wollscheid – Cups 1
7. Jane and Barton – You Are Over There (Part One)
8. O'Donel Levy – I Believe In Miracles
9. Alvin Lucier – So You … (Hermes, Orpheus, Eurydice) (excerpt)

Shout outs: 

Mark Loeser’s voice

Pied de biche - Medieval Punk https://pied-de-biche.bandcamp.com

Lyric and Robert Hood: https://www.billboard.com/music/features/robert-hood-lyric-hood-floorplan-father-daughter-touring-1235709568/

Black Truffle http://www.blacktrufflerecords.com

The queen is dead. Long live the queen. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/arts/music/eliane-radigue-dead.html

We are joined by the magical and sylvan Catherine Debard, artist known as Tenses, Ylang Ylang, 1/2 of Mue, and many other great pieces of the Montréal tape underground.

Fruits everywhere. Cushions. Luxury. A lot of drums.

Quarantines are broken:

Girls play guys music. Guys playing girls.  

An awful YouTube doc on ‘unrecorded mysterious sounds’. What is Netflix missing? Definition hiding in unexpected places:

Dense air, dead horses, radioactivity. 

Who’s going next down the waterslide? It all feels like momentum at the end.

The eternal music? Sing along with your appliances and the world is a better place. The harmonics change. It speeds up and slows itself down.

And where are we now physically? Colorado—trying to wrap ourselves around space. Yet things start bubbling in the back. It’s really jarring. 

We're starting fresh: A series of beer caps strung together at the end of a broom handle. A raw condensed emotion. There’s a lot of space. It might go off the rails. What ARE people doing today with their charming MIDI sound palette and their post-prog attitude?

You’ll get the point in 10 minutes. I don’t know what to say. “of which of which it's of then which is it not that’s."  It's almost a sports feeling. I think it’s the best feeling.  

James Schidlowsky invokes the greatest corrugaphone performance of all time. You get glazed over. It's like falling down the stairs but you get hooked on it. Stories are nice but sometimes you need microclimates… situations with stuff going on, just playing it out. It shouldn’t logically be able to end. 

It’s a glazing.

We listened to:
1. Adam Bohman – Burgundy Barrage
2. The Miracle – Choir Boys From Jupiter (excerpt)
3. Anne Tardos – Refrigerator Defrosting with Vocal Improvisation
4. Amelia Cuni – Melopea (excerpt)
5. Richard Earl – Intensest Weakness
6. Jean-Marie Mercimek – Le Camion
7. Clark Coolidge – Polaroid (excerpt)
8. Richard Youngs –  Zulaqrex I

Shouts:
Julien Champagne: https://julienchampagne.com/
Deadhorse bay: https://flybravely.substack.com/p/unearthing-history-at-brooklyns-dead

Eric Lanzilotta / Anomalous records mailorder: https://ribexibalba.com/mailorder.html

Wil Murray: https://www.mutualart.com/Artist/Wil-Murray/C78FBB4F60501FC4/Artworks

Of polaroid: https://writing.upenn.edu/epc/authors/coolidge/polaroid.html

James Schidlowsky: https://www.jamesschidlowsky.ca

A year end celebration with the larger circle.

The theme: Terrifying in a beautiful instead of a dangerous way.

We start the episode under the icecap. We celebrate life in a subaquatic hydrophone terror attack by ghosts who remind us of the life-giving force of death in a connected world.  It sounds joyful. 

The Book of Revelation, written by stylophone, with no consonants, only vowels.

Intentional connections that open onto unintentional ones, via over-modulated saxophones.

We spend time unpacking "destitution", then Mark brings the esoterik cannon, full stop. Mahler leads to criminally neglected spiritual visitations from the Chicago dollar bins.

Solo unknowability ensues. Jacob drinks a huge milkshake. The other way of making music. 
The fundamental music: The one person with their instrument once the energy grid collapses.

Neon hunks fashioning Flemish dance-folk stringed instruments on homesteads. Moskos suddenly appears. A very slow computer processing in a yurt, creating a virtual Borzeix. You don’t show up? You get represented anyway.

The world moves in predictable ellipses: Michigan > Africa > Montreal. The servers run hot making sound design from the future. Roger brings the now sound by looking backwards and forwards at the same time.

Octavia Butler-style benevolent aliens oversee the episode and monitor the controlled feedback.

Finally, we visit that guy in a basement at GRM for 25 years still trying to make a computer play like Charlie Parker.

2025: Strange resonance and bloody fingers.
2026: Things Have Got to Change!

We listend to:

1. Chester Beachell – Orcas and Belugas (excerpt)
2. Eyeless in Gaza – John Of Patmos
3. Sarah Clausen – Intro/Cry
5. Robert Lippok – Close
6. Donny Hathaway – I Love the Lord, He Heard My Cry
7. Tal Coal – Cruèla
8. A Magic Whistle – My Cuckoo/We Fly/Secret Spring
11. Refuse Stealing Band – Ndirande (OJPB's Stealth edit)
12. Server Farms – With Fake Beach, Fake Sun
13. Archie Shepp – Things Have Got to Change

Shouts:

Chris Wrench, always

A phone call from below the arctic ice

MF. 10-11: Covid empty city recordings

Audre Lorde – Coal
RLW box set – Tulpas

Blastitude best of 2025

Refuse stealing band original clip

DJ PICA PICA PICA (aka EYEEEEEE)

This is not what I signed up for, this is exactly what I signed up for.

Legendary experimental film maker and the perfect person to be on any podcast, Mark Loeser, shows up at all the usual tables, in a t-shirt that says Aztec camera. 

Enthusiasm beats considered intellectualism every single minute.

We learn through lost super 8 cartridges that fascination is the root of all suffering. Yet, anything is possible! Love, sure, is a good example. Another is Alice Coltrane’s visitation by Stravinsky’s ghost to be told about Jacob’s episode pick... not to mention the wire and light John Coltrane.

Truly we are living in the best of all possible worlds.

We start the show with foot fetish snuff films. This leads through some pzm mic cables to an understanding how the things that attracted you become you. 

Vancouver in the 90s: 

Feldman tapes stolen from the Pofi bar while the holes get drilled in spoons.

Japanese noise at Edison electric

Dance club bass leakage into Dixieland inns makes microsound better while the glasses sway and free jazz combats

Plus... toilets on the Fourth of July.

Eastern zero's counterpoints:
Cinemontas delivered up spiral staircases.  

Projections on parketts, projections through mirrors, projections on canadian tires. 

The drugs hitting too hard too fast / crickets on the Ohio Speako Wio

Neighbours learn suffering as the first step on the paths of enlightenment.

JAPAN shows up to prove that Maher is the greatest punk of all. Fuck ingenious efficient results based chaos we want real ego death!

CAIRO shows up to bring the post punk infinite fire. 

To end, Saint George appears as the collective warmth- a power greater than itself - to close with the sound of the cosmos.

Musicians reckoning with life: Where does listening start, what it transforms. The only way to end is the fade out. 

Perfection = the thoughtfulness of the organizing principle and the looseness with which it is applied.

Or as Sam Shalabi asks: “are you guys musicians…actually?”

We listend to:

1. Uncredited artists – Canceling Stamps At The University Of Ghana Post Office
2. Jean Guérin – Triptik 2
3. Cyril Scott – Lotus Land
4. Good Horsey – Delighted
5. Dj Carhouse &  Mc Hellshit – Air Rappers
6. And the Native Hipsters – You Sleep I Dance
7. Bernard Fort – Fractal i
8. Destroy 2 – Standing Piss is Legal
9. Tori Kudo – 目を瞑って歩く夜道は
10. Ahmad Adaweya – Mawwal Ya Betaa El Tofah
11. George Lewis – Homage To Charles Parker

Shout outs
TMU motion picture lab

Enrico Pacella
Viennese Actionist Museum 

Bill Eggeleston lost his shoes in canton! 

Indiamore Chassol 

Esoterik says: Sign up for the blast stack! 

Shane Ehman, good horsey album artist 

Tori Kudo’s bandcamp 

62 Rachel, again.

Geroge lewis homage live at moers

And because everyone needs it at least once in their life:

SPECIAL EXCLUSIVE BONUS FEATURE
Complete Fuck Super Neighbours playlist!!!

Another early Sunday.

Leon asks the infernal 8-ball what’s up. Flipped over, it says: go both speeds at once.

When we take its advice, the sun is driven poorly by the wild son. The earth scorches. The father smites the son. The cycle continues—through the Iraq War, maybe all the way to 2025.

We move to frozen Canada and double down on the vowels.
The CD Esoterik exclusive track hits the sweet spot where the snake eats its own tail, and recursive logic extrapolates toward its ultimate goal: ecstatic ghost hum production.

Beginner’s mind is the key to keeping the Kaoss Pad unlimited.

The universe explodes into so many layers of simulation— and then: Whitney Houston confetti, powered by a nuanced critique of the colonialist anthropological instinct.

We close our trip to the Canadas in the ultimate hall of Kierkegaardian expensive cassette mirrors, to look at some paintings somewhere near Niagara Falls. 

Back to Brooklyn for delicate shredding and something new with guitar.
You can do it still!

We visit Japan for the hollow sound, where the dishwasher brings the responsible vocal shred. Something short shows us the bubbles we live in.

And: New York hates you.

Finally, a convincing case that live music is better than recorded music can ever be.

Episode warning:
Do not listen while driving or operating heavy machinery.
We want problems. We don’t want peace.

We listend to:

1. Ian Crause – Phaethon's Call
2. Christof Migone – ooooo (demo)
3. Michael Snow – Si Nopo Da (By What Signs Will I Come to Understand)
4. Chris Wind ft. Jurgen Rodriguez – Paintings 7
5. Chuck Roth – Twister
6. Hako Yamasaki – Wandering
7. Milan Grygar – Akustická kresba A15
8. DEATHBYSHEEP – DEATHBYSHEEP PRESENTS- BLUNTED POSSE SAMPLER MIX 2022-2023 PART 2 (excerpt)
9. Josephine Foster – All I Wanted Was The Moon (live at MeetFactory, Prague, May 16., 2024)

Shout Outs:

Le Laps one of many Marie-Douce St Jacques' awesome endeavours.

Rest in epic strangeness, Brian Catling
Hollow — B. Catling

Michael Snow! thank you!

Chris Wind's excellent website

Marie Brassard’s film Le Train
Microclimat Films — The Train

Another Mark Loeser shout.

Penelope Spheeris — The Decline of Western Civilization (Parts I-III)

1. Part I
2. Part II
3. Part III

In which we are joined by one of the OG inspirations for Esoterik, esteemed blogger, substacker, brilliant writer and legendary ear-having proprietor of Blastitude, Larry “Fuzz-O” Dolman.

We discuss the economics of the 30-600 split, Utopias and Distopias. The openess of open access. Cassandra Miller vs Cassandra Wilson. 

The 80% (corrected) EPA scale delivers short form long form. We get over the Robert Wyatt hump by mineralizeing Leon. Fishing with a sausage, an apple and a sandwich lands a Ukrainian architect tipping the Zulawski meter into the red. The vibe shift clause is invoked leading us back to the trucker funk, down the deep history of the ugliest edits to the perfect bpm. Jeff Mills shows up, as he does, to complicate the narrative. After that, we hit the tornado coffee shop bringing the go-go back. We close on the hopeful resilient shimmering pickled herring of 1989.

As usual we get 1/91st of the way to the 6000 cassettes in the kiosk,

It is what it is. There’s no changing it.  

Finally, we ask the eternal quesiton: Was RollerDerby 1.95 or 2.95 per issue?

We listend to:
1. Shutaro Noguchi and the Roadhouse Band – Olympic 3.5
2. Bill Orcutt – The Four Louies II
3. Robert Wyatt – Biko
4. Ihor Tsymbrovsky – Bilya Morya (By The Sea)
5. Ron Hardy –  Live at the Music Box, 1985 (excerpt)
6. Jeff Mills – Memory Reset 9
7. Reaction Band –  Coffee Shop
8. Оселедець – Хто поблагословив незрячі очі

Shout outs:
Gridface's Ron Hardy archives
Arthur Magazine's Jay Babcott's substack
Roller Derby's Lisa Carver's patreon

Violence is easy. Nostalgia, complexity, they all are easy to make a case for. The beautiful? It’s impossible to approach. Yet, we try, without intending to, because it’s Sunday morning and music speaks directly on Sunday morning, and absolute unmixed attention is prayer.

Melody. That singer from orang, what’s her name? Simone Weil. So much control over something uncontrollable. The nations foremost player bowing instead of plucking. How rawness affects the opening of ears. Fractal sand that egress the vibes to create the oyster and the pearl. Then, a short sailing trip back to the gradient. What about tomorrow?  We got up in the morning and we had to eat again. It’s a disaster by god. 

Too short soulful collage from a small little country.  Better. Richer. More complex sonic youth cover closing the gradient in perfect tone but still getting hurt by songs with drums recorded miles away. Beauty kills. Beauty is the murderer.

What we learned: To speak better: Talk less. Make music more.

We listend to:
1. Henryk Górecki feat. Beth Gibbons, Krzysztof Penderecki – Symphony No. 3 Final Movement
2. Cassandra Miller – I cannot love without trembling
3. Hwang Byungki feat. Hong Sin Cha – The Labyrinth (Excerpt)
4. Tom Johnson – Combinations for String Quartet III
5. Gary Marks – Sailing
6. Ziad Rahbani feat. Jospeh Saqr – Esmaa Ya Reda
7. Collage –  Halb Sirp (Bad Sickle)
8. Silvia Tarozzi – La sostanza dell’affetto
9. Marnie – Songs Hurt Me

Shout outs:
Watch Beth Gibbons singing Górecki with Krzysztof Penderecki conducting
Domenico Caliri guitarist on the Silvia Tarozzi track (she is also listed so it could be her!)