In this week’s episode, Jennie and Michelle open up about feeling grief during the holidays and how it can affect you both mentally and physically.

Then Michelle talks about why she decided to start planning funerals for her family in order to have enough time to truly honor a loved one and how John’s funeral came to be.

They also look back on John and Brent’s quirks that made them who they are, why there is so much bitterness that comes with grief, and the impact of Brent's funeral.

Lastly, Jennie and Michelle talk about how asking for help and support is a fundamental aspect of resiliency.

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