The Contextual Electronics Podcast

CEP009 – Meta Learning Electronics with Mike Cheich and Phil FitzGerald


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  • About the guests/host
    • Mike Cheich runs Programming Electronics academy. He has also been on Chris’s other podcast in the past.
    • Phil FitzGerald is an educational coach via The Compelling Message
    • Chris teaches at Contextual Electronics
    • Discussion topics
      • Teaching how to make a sandwich
      • Is the knowledge in reach and is it relevant?
      • Most people that are in Programming Electronics are hardware hobbyists who want to get into programming, usually through Arduino
      • It can be intimidating learning electronics because of the breadth of knowledge required
      • Phil-ism: Accreditation, certification, celebration.
      • Self evaluation matters at the beginning of education
      • SME = Subject Matter Expert
      • Analogy of creating a map within a city (mapping out London)
      • Selling people on the end point of a learning journey
      • Learners normally don’t care as much about the specifics of the journey
      • After the fact, learners will rose c0lor the specifics of how they got to the point they’re at
      • DITLO = Day in the life of
      • Chris struggles with how traditional education was teaching electronics
      • Mike likes finding the guiding principle within the electronics universe
      • Two tracks – thinking (theory) and doing (practice)
      • Designing your own 5 year map of curriculum
      • Phil-ism: You can’t show it if you don’t know it
      • Extending your knowledge of how maps work by being able to create a map in a new city
      • Creating lists of things to do, or not to do
      • Mike is learning how to 3D printing, which was a new learning journey
      • Facing failure and understanding what you should do when that happens
      • Drawing your map so you understand what you do and don’t know
      • Keeping notes is so you reinforce your own knowledge. In Phil’s example, this might take the form of a map. Phil explains in more detail in the video below:
        • The Dunning Kruger Effect
        • Make It Stick by Peter Brown
        • Growth Mindset vs Fixed Mindset
        • Removing barriers to learning when a learner experiences a problem (QR Code example)
        • Sleeping on a problem (or stepping away from a problem)
        • Accreditation is someone verifying you know what you claim to know
        • “What comes before that” is an important question when mapping out the steps required to learn something
        • Maps start as post-it notes
        • Creating analogies
        • Breaking down individual elements of the learning process and relating it back to that analogy
        • How do you quantify “show it to know it”?
        • Chris is a proponent of “Build Logs” (which is also a section on the CE Forum)
        • What do you notice in the thing you want to build?
        • Thinking about the steps that indicate you’re about to get to the next step? (ie. Which stop comes before the stop you’re going to get off at on the train)
        • Dewey Decimal System
        • Sometimes courses try to constrain the possible paths of research, as that can get overwhelming
        • The downside to learning in the modern day is how many sources of distraction there are (ie. phones)
        • Guided path examples
        • Implementation Patterns by Kent Beck
        • Learning something well enough to teach is holding yourself to a higher standard
        • Check out Phil’s site The Compelling Message and check out his book!
        • Mike teaches electronics on Programming Electronics Academy
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