Labor revealed its long-awaited CGT carve-outs for startups and small businesses minutes before Capital Brief went live with this conversation. Meanwhile, complexities arise around Canva's path to IPO as its first investor puts forward the bear case.

We discuss:

• The nuts and bolts of the CGT carve-out announcement.
• What the Innovative Business CGT Concession will mean for startups, VCs and ESOP holders.
• The challenges yet to be resolved, including defining what a startup actually is.
• How the startup sector grew up in public through this fight, and what it means for its relationship with Canberra
• Albanese's pivot to talking about One Nation 
• Bill Tai's leaked comments on Canva's IPO challenges and the bear case for Australia's beloved design giant.
• Canva's awkward transition from SaaS darling to AI company.

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