One of the best people I met last year was Samantha Peart. We were in Copenhagen for a few days and of our fellows group, I have to say she asked the best questions. She’s also exceptionally good at getting you to question your assumptions or reflect on why you might think what you’re thinking.

And that really comes through in this conversation, with real examples that have had a massive impact on projects and places.

I’m such a fan of hers, that I even let her destroy the magic wand question. Because she makes an excellent point about it.

So if you’re involved in any sort of urbanism, placemaking or infrastructure project. This really is one you need to have a listen to.