Bahle Nhlapho is talking to Lindiwe Sweleka, the author of the book "Mpontsheng tsela ya lerato about Challenges are not the end, keep on pushing. She looks at how many people are discouraged and demotivated and how some are no longer carrying on on their Christian journey but calls it a quit. She encourages everyone to never get weary or quit due to the challenges of these times but to keep on pushing. Jula Ezwini