Should chameleon keepers have a different husbandry than chameleon breeders? It doesn't make sense that they would, but that is a typical situation. We know why this is, but shouldn't it be different? Would you, as a customer, be willing to pay what it takes for breeders to provide the same level of care as keepers do? Jonathan Hill of iPardalis joins me to discuss what we should expect from ourselves as breeders and as customers in the chameleon community.