While there's no easy way in to defence as an SME, Peter Freed says the industry's willingness to accept a "degree of risk" could allow small businesses like his own to successfully operate in that space. Joining host Phil Tarrant for this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, the managing director for software solutions provider, Cirrus Real Time Processing Systems, explains why he's a champion for local SME talent and explores the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead for small businesses in defence. Tune in to hear how Freed overcame his own challenges to establish a successful business in the defence industry, but why, despite his success, he won't try to conquer the world. Enjoy the podcast, The Defence Connect team.