We hadn't practised specifically, what would happen, you know, if the boss got blown up one morning, but we’d practiced enough so they knew the drills."

In the first episode for Season 2 of the Change Happens podcast, host Jenelle McMaster is joined by author and Managing Director of Trebuchet Pivot, Garth Callender, who shares his remarkable experience of his time as an Australian officer in Iraq and Afghanistan and how he has applied the lessons and training learned along the way to life in business.