In the 10th episode of Defiant Talk, Jamie and Sid welcome Ben 'Abstacker' Handsaker- health and fitness guru, bodybuilding champion, motivational speaker and one of the most positive people on the planet! They talk about the awful comments Ben was hit with as a young man that set him on his life journey; one of triumph, perseverance and generosity. The boys cover a range of topics, from running double marathons on a 40 degree day, to achieving the perfect six pack, to the benefit of sun tanning your balls!

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