In this conversation, I am joined by BJ Council who is a retired police executive that started an organization called You and 50, where she goes into the community and teaches people how to interact with the police and get home safely.  We discuss what is required to defund the police, how to change the narratives of our black and brown communities, how systemic racism has created a cycle of poverty, and much more. 

This is a heart-centered conversation that just might surprise you. BJ shares the things that she has learned as a police executive and working with various communities.

For more information:

You and Five O website - https://www.youandfive-o.com/

https://www.youandfive-o.com/podcast

Dr. Joy Degruy - https://www.joydegruy.com/post-traumatic-slave-syndrome