How have perceptions and appetite for risk changed over the past 5 years? In this episode of Security Visionaries we speak to the man who literally co-wrote the book on risk, Jack Freund, Chief Risk Officer at Kovrr, along with a CIO and CISO who has worked for more than one global financial institution, David Fairman CIO & CSO - APAC at Netskope, to try to better understand how cyber risk sits within broader organization risk decisions.