To change the conversation from an accountability mindset, we must focus on other fundamental aspects of education. First of all, education is about deeper learning for all which was the subject of the first podcast in this Changing the Conversation series. To have deeper learning, one must have deeper teaching which is the subject of this podcast. The third in the series will be about Learning Leaders. This particular podcast describes a deeper teacher and what they do differently. Reinstating deeper teaching gives us permission to once again marry the art and skill of effective teaching which means that all students have deeper learning.