In this episode, the two Matts tune in to The Writ Wit's rival podcast hosted by two familiar voices who have always held us in contempt, discuss the importance of Oxford commas and other punctuational and grammatical elements, gasp in betrayal when one of us cleans the others' apartment without their consent, and talk about the character archetype of The Hero in the first of our set about the first batch of twelve character archetypes. What makes The Hero, well, The Hero? How can we keep these characters interesting and not so goody-two-shoes? Can these characters be the antagonists somehow? When will Matt Donald rehire Matt David after he betrayed his trust? We discuss it all, while being The Heroes in our own little podcasting worlds, and talk about Superman, Captain America, Luke Skywalker, and The Eternals.

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Also, the list of archetypes we were talking about can be found here: https://www.masterclass.com/articles/writing-101-the-12-literary-archetypes#12-archetypal-characters-to-use-in-your-writing