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Joe Root announces his resignation as Captain of England's Cricket team. William and Tudor discuss the next Captain. They are undeterred at the problems of recalling the names of earlier captains.
Tudor is interested in the process of selecting a captain and the possible preference of the selectors for safe pairs of hands of charismatic leaders. He likens this to the preference shown in the election process of a new Pope.
As the podcast ends, news arrives of the appointment of a captain of England who may meet the characteristics of a Charismatic leader

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