Both Charles and Mike were part of a group that completed the Richard Rohr Living School in 2017. His journey includes business success, a battle with alcoholism and his resulting sobriety, including his thoughts on his current battle with cancer. Mike asked Charles to identify some key aspects of his journey and he provided the following – “Finding out I’ve always been okay; I just didn’t know it. Trudging the road of happy destiny. Giving up the merit economy so as to join the economy of Grace. Finally knowing God loves me because He is good not because I am good.”