We're back. with a real episode about books, without a single anime in sight. We're talking with Charlie Jane Anders- prolific short story writer, podcaster, founding editor of io9, person who can stand us talking about Pissgrave for way too long and writer of City in the Middle of the Night. We discuss influence, technology, climate, tidally locked planets and Pissgrave.

Music by HIRS: https://hirs.bandcamp.com/

And Pissgrave: https://pissgrave.bandcamp.com (CW EXTREMELY GRAPHIC CONTENT- I'M NOT DOING A BIT, PLEASE DON'T OPEN THAT LINK UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE IN FOR.)