Gary and Chase talk about growing up in florida, making the jump from dirt racing to the Nascar K&N or Arca series, winning racing and what it takes to find a ride in the Nascar Camping World Truck Series and beyond. Chase gives insight into what it takes to shoot, edit and be in the Hailie Deegan youtube videos and how that was their opportunity to make a living outside of racing, the pros and cons of living a public life, including a wild story where Chase was receiving death threats from an internet scam involving Hailie They talk about his clothing company The Reckless Society and the roll that T-shirt sales has in racing.

Podcast links:

Chase Cabre Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chase_cabre/

Hallie Deegan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hailiedeegan/?img_index=1

The Reckless Society website

https://therecklesssociety.com/