I'm so excited to dive in with my good friend, journalist, creative producer, and all-around visionary boss - Yale Breslin. From ditching perfection, to turning 40 - and what it finally feels like to start trusting your own gut and leaning in. It's an honest convo about creativity, growth, and trusting the process, while having fun doing it.

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