Net Takeaways with Feller & Harf

Chasing Capital Gains and Cherry Hill Dreams: The Net Takeaways on 1031s


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Episode Title: From Hockey Glory to 1031 Stories: The Net Lease Playbook

Episode Overview: In this episode, BJ and Isaiah tackle two seemingly unrelated topics—hockey memories and real estate—but bring them together in their signature style. The conversation ranges from reminiscing about seventh-grade choir trips and boarding school hockey days to a deep dive into the current state of 1031 exchanges and the net lease market. BJ and Isaiah use their industry insights to break down the basics of 1031 exchanges, analyze recent market data, and discuss how this niche part of real estate impacts everyone from individual investors to large institutions.

Highlights:

Seventh Grade Choir & Cherry Hill Trips:
Isaiah kicks off with a humorous story from his childhood choir days, sharing a trip to Cherry Hill and the adventures that came with it. This sets a relaxed, relatable tone before diving into real estate insights.

Hockey Banter and Boarding School Memories:
The hosts swap stories about hockey culture, including BJ’s kids’ budding passion for hockey and Isaiah’s memories of East Coast prep school. They touch on the significance of hockey in their lives and even suggest a hockey-themed episode someday!

1031 Exchanges Explained:
BJ breaks down 1031 exchanges, covering how this tax-deferral tool enables real estate investors to defer capital gains when they reinvest in “like-kind” properties. This section is great for listeners unfamiliar with 1031 exchanges or those wanting a refresher on its role in wealth building.

Real Estate Data Debate:
The hosts discuss the challenges in tracking accurate 1031 data. Referencing sources like CoStar, BJ and Isaiah critique the accuracy of self-reported data and highlight how real estate trends aren’t always as they appear on paper. They also share their approach at Northmarq for analyzing transaction volume and 1031 trends.

Interest Rates and Market Dynamics:
With rising interest rates, the hosts discuss the impact on 1031 transaction volumes and cap rates. They share insights on how institutions are benefiting from current market conditions as private investors become more cautious.

Looking Ahead: New Podcast Studio and Video Format:
BJ and Isaiah wrap up the episode with excitement about their new office space, featuring a dedicated podcast studio and plans to incorporate video into future episodes. The new setup promises visual aids like whiteboards for deeper dives into data and analysis.

Key Takeaways:

  • 1031 Exchanges Are Declining: Rising interest rates have reduced transaction volumes in the 1031 market, impacting private investors but creating new opportunities for institutional players.
  • Tracking 1031 Data Is Tricky: Reliable data on 1031 transactions is challenging to find, making it essential for investors to question sources and take self-reported data with a grain of salt.
  • Net Lease Properties as a Strategic Hold: For investors in 1031 exchanges, net lease properties offer a flexible option, acting as a “holding vehicle” with strong liquidity, making it easier to defer taxes while seeking new investment opportunities.
  • Institutional Wins: With fewer 1031 buyers in the market, institutions face less competition, positioning them to acquire assets at attractive rates.

Quotes of the Episode:

  • “This episode might be about real estate, but the hockey talk might steal the show!” — BJ
  • “Net lease is the only real estate asset you can underwrite in a night with confidence. That’s why it’s the go-to for 1031.” — Isaiah
  • “We live in a world of made-up stats. Numbers lie and figures lie. It’s all mumbo jumbo.” — Isaiah

Don’t Miss: The playful banter on Cherry Hill trips and hockey practice, the thoughtful analysis on real estate’s biggest trends, and the teaser about the new studio setup for future episodes!

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Net Takeaways with Feller & HarfBy BJ Feller & Isaiah Harf

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