In this inspiring episode of Chattin’ With Kobéy, I sit down with Leigh Stepanian from The Phoenix, a nonprofit on a mission to support individuals in active recovery by offering free programs. Leigh shares how movement, connection, and compassion can change lives — and why being an ally matters more than ever. We talk about breaking stigma, showing up for one another, building spaces where everyone can rise, and why I stopped attending rock climbing. This one is about healing, hope, and holding each other down. 💪🏾🔥