Before we dive into some heavier topics with awesome guests, Cameron and Karen talk a little about hot takes, life updates, and the fact that while Karen can run 8 miles only stopping to rest once, Cameron can't get through a single kickball game without injuring herself (again). 

Enjoy a chill episode with us over Spring Break! (Well, for most of you - Cameron's still at work!)

Karen's book: Language at the Speed of Sight

Cameron's book: Everyday Miracles of Lourdes

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