Rob hangs out in the Pioneer Center in Kidderminster for a chat with this year's keynote speaker from Known by Name (SCM's 2020 National Gathering) the legendary Revd Kate Harford! We ask Kate about chaplaincy and the church, what inspired her to write her keynote talk, and some of her other inspirations! Tune in to find out more about the Metropolitan Community Church, and why the story of Joseph might be even more interesting than we first thought!