For this special joint episode of Step Into The Sandbox and Pan Con Podcast, David is joined by the latter podcast's host Michael Beltran. Mike is the chef-partner behind Ariete Hospitality Group, which is the umbrella company that owns The Taurus, Chug's Diner, The Scapegoat, Nave, and the flagship Ariete. Mike was a semifinalist for the James Beard Foundation's 2020 award for Best Chef: South.

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