In this episode, we have Chelsea Isdaner from Smoldering Serpents. We discuss how she builds and maintains several large naturalistic enclosures for her very diverse collection of colubrids and colubroids. We also discuss the pros and cons of naturalistic keeping, the state of herpetoculture, and communicating with people who have different opinions than you. Absolutely wonderful conversation!

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