Debbie Millman talks to author Cheryl Strayed about her childhood, career and the value of taking a very long hike. Listen and subscribe to Design Matters with Debbie Millman and more podcasts from the TED Audio Collective at audiocollective.ted.com.

Cheryl Strayed | Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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Cheryl Strayed | Design Matters with Debbie Millman

Cheryl Strayed | Design Matters with Debbie Millman